Dick Cheney Hospitalized

I was amazed at the nasty comments made about this video on YouTube.

Yeah, but we are the dangerous ones . . . they are just exercising their first ammendment rights. :(

Who is they? I am a democrat. Didn't like Cheney as Vice President but I didn't know him personally so I cannot hate him nor would I wish him harm or ill will.

But, Not all who wander are lost b., did you make nasty comments on the video? Doesn't sound like you did so wasn't talking about you if you see what I mean. "They" ... as in the ones who made the nasty comments ...

Hey, Lee.......Where's your recommendation??

Take two aspirin and don't call the press in the morning?

Some people are just non-thinkers. But, then, this is on Faux Noise...
Sorry...couldn't resist.
No matter how mis-guided a person may be or not be, we have no right to judge. I believe I learned that in Sunday School. Along with "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" didn't you also learn "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."???
Leaves all of out, doesn't it?

No matter how mis-guided a person may be or not be, we have no right to judge.

But Ellie, you have a perfect right to judge actions; we do that everyday in a variety of ways. For instance, most of us judged Tiger Woods as an adulterer; and we were correct and within our rights. If a "friend" always missed appointments and lied all the time, I'd judge her/him to be untrustworthy and faithless; because that's what his/her actions show me and the world. Which is the only thing we can judge, the things we see. We can judge them right or wrong.

But we're out of our pervue if we try to judge Tiger's heart or what his future will be ... or even the whys and wherefores of his past because we don't have all the info and his "story" if you will, is incomplete.

It's a whole complicated explanation I won't go into any further but suffice it to say I don't begrudge a little judgement of actions, the things we see men and women do and things we hear them say. . . I'll let someone else say it for me since if I tried, I'd go on and on and lose your attention before I got to the point --- Dave Hunt wrote, "Correction is one of the most conspicuously absent, yet essential ministries in the church today.

There are those who seek to avoid correction by hiding behind a misapplication of Christ's words, "Judge not, lest ye be judged" (Matthew 7:1).

It is strangely forgotten that these words were spoken by the same One who warned the Jews: to not judge according to appearances, but to judge righteous judgment (John 7:24), told us to judge the fruit of prophets (Matthew 7:16) and promised His disciples that they would sit on thrones judging Israel (Matthew 19:28).

From the context and the remainder of Scripture, it seems clear that Christ was warning us not to judge motives, because these are hidden from us. We must put the best reasonable interpretation upon what others say and do, not judging their hearts, nor their Salvation, which only God knows. However according to Scripture, we are obliged to judge doctrines and deeds."

Ellie !. Feb 23, 2010, 12:11am EST
Some people are just non-thinkers. But, then, this is on Faux Noise...
Sorry...couldn't resist.
No matter how mis-guided a person may be or not be, we have no right to judge. I believe I learned that in Sunday School. Along with "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you" didn't you also learn "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone."???
Leaves all of out, doesn't it?

Thanks, Lee. People do forget that the next part of "judge not lest ye be judged" talks about the fact the way one judges we will also be judged. We do have to judge and to discern in order to select the right kinds of friends, in order to know if the church we attend is preaching God's word, etc. I think you put it quite well. Only God knows the hearts of men, but we are certainly to judge actions and even to point out the error of someone's ways if the opportunity arises.

some folks are just rude,, I seriously hope all works out for him...do you know he sent my step mum a note of condolence for my dad passing,, they knew each other from long ago..

Wow. She knew someone famous.

to us Mr Cheney is not famous he is just the good man he is,, he knew my dad,, as a fellow person,, not as a digintary or anything

:)

I only wish Mr. Cheney the best. I don't like him at all but I'd never cross the line wishing him the worse. However, I hope as he lay once again in a hospital bed, that he have second thoughts about opposing the same tax-payer funded health care that he is benefiting from as millions of tax-paying Americans go without affordable heathcare.

I wonder what his bill would be if he had to purchase medical coverage on the open market.

 

Lloyd, where in the bills does it say the same benefits that those who have held ELECTED offices get? Last I knew, Congress wasn't interested in scaling down their health benefits to fit the bill(s).

Sue let's not beat around the bush. Those elected members of the Congress and the Senate should either support affordable health care for all Americans or stop receiving tax-payer funded health care for themselves.

It is the highest level of hypocrisy. Those opposed to any sort of tax-payer funded health care should put their money where their mouths are and purchase health care for them and their families on the open market.

Do you disagree with me?

Some people think that just because they cannot be seen (in person). They can just say whatever they want without being sensitive to others.

True.

I left a nasty comment on YouTube. *thumbs up*

Marilyn, is cruising around for something to be offended about your full time occupation? Or just a side line? ;-)

It seems to me that since you are already a Fox News viewer, you'd already have seen this news before. So what's the point of posting it here? To chastise people for leaving comments you don't like? Or, were you were cruising around for some video that you could post to your fans that would get them agitated? Or were you just trying to earn some more points on Gather?

Did anyone actually wish Cheney harm? Or did they say they wished he could put himself in the place of people who needed insurance, but can't get any? If so, does that constitute wishing him bad? That would mean that you'd have to admit that it is bad to be without insurance, and therefore those who do not have insurance deserve to be punished thusly?

Personally I believe that wishing for insured people to keep their uninsured status (which is what you advocate when you say you do not want any national health) is more wicked than people wishing harm to a person who IS insured (Former VP Chenesy). Sticks and stones may break Cheney's bones, but being uninsured can be deadly.

Personally I despise the man, and I'm a conservative!

When I heard he was hospitalized, my first thought was good, now he can't say something stupid for a while.

I can't say I wish him a speedy recovery, because the longer he's in the hospital the longer we can go without him saying something stoopid!

No I don't wish him to die or anything, I just don't want to hear what he has to say, and since no one would pass me the duct tape to tape, I could only 'wish' that they 'could' sew his mouth shut'......sorry, but Cheney was a thorn in the presidents side, and it became very very apparent that was the case when Cheney couldn't get a pardon for his pal Scooter Libby.

I think the president was right not to pardon Scooter, but it put a larger wedge between the president and the VP.

So while I wish the VP a recovery, I hope that he takes his time, because I'm sick of hearing him run his mouth.

But that's just me.
Mooch

I'm not going to discuss health care on this post with you, k. And you could have had your question answered if you went to YouTube and looked at the comments wishing that he was dead.

Guess we don't agree on everything, Mooch.

Marilyn, I don't think this is a good use of my time to either watch the video or read the comments. There are a lot of stupid comments on a lot of You Tube videos. Surely you have better uses for your time. Don't you?

Marilyn,
it's ok, I can agree to disagree.....I think Cheney was a huge thorn in the side of the Bush Administration, and while I don't like him, I don't wish him to die....I just wish he'd keep his mouth shut....because most of the time lately when he opens it, he's just spouting off about some thing or another and does not really say anything of substance or of any importance.

But I do know if he goes down he'll take anyone and everyone he can when he goes down.....

Mooch

Marilyn, I don't think this is a good use of my time to either watch the video or read the comments.

That's your choice .. . But as a result of that choice, you asked a question which would have been answered had you gone to the video ... but then it would have been hard to make the rest of your comments since they are based on the premise that the comments on the video were rather bland and nondescript ("Did anyone actually wish Cheney harm? Or did they say they wished he could put himself in the place of people who needed insurance, but can't get any? If so, does that constitute wishing him bad?").


There are a lot of stupid comments on a lot of You Tube videos. Surely you have better uses for your time. Don't you?

And that would be Marilyn's choice; her Gather account, her time, her choice. +shrug+ What's the big deal with Marilyn making her own choices of what to post or what not to post? Same as what color her hair is or what she has for dinner or where she spends her money ... all her choice.

You made yours, she makes hers. I really don't see the problem here.


kokomo *. Feb 23, 2010, 11:20am EST
kokomo *. Feb 23, 2010, 5:57am EST
Marilyn, is cruising around for something to be offended about your full time occupation? Or just a side line? ;-)

It seems to me that since you are already a Fox News viewer, you'd already have seen this news before. So what's the point of posting it here? To chastise people for leaving comments you don't like? Or, were you were cruising around for some video that you could post to your fans that would get them agitated? Or were you just trying to earn some more points on Gather?

Did anyone actually wish Cheney harm? Or did they say they wished he could put himself in the place of people who needed insurance, but can't get any? If so, does that constitute wishing him bad? That would mean that you'd have to admit that it is bad to be without insurance, and therefore those who do not have insurance deserve to be punished thusly?

Personally I believe that wishing for insured people to keep their uninsured status (which is what you advocate when you say you do not want any national health) is more wicked than people wishing harm to a person who IS insured (Former VP Chenesy). Sticks and stones may break Cheney's bones, but being uninsured can be deadly

Lee, the idea is that she goes around looking for people who have beliefs that are different from hers and then finds something she can fault about them. There are people who believe the same as Marilyn does, but when they do something bad....well, they are just Christians and they aren't perfect, just forgiven.

So one kook wished Cheney dead. (That is, IF they really said that.) Big deal. Lee, do you think it is a good use of my time to go searching for that comment? I know my time is worth more than that. It is the same thing as, when people email around rumors, and don't bother to check it out on Snopes before I sent it. I have a friend who is "famous" for hitting the forward button without checking it out. It is rude.

No, k, it was not just one kook who commented and you would know that if you bothered to view them. Does it make sense to you that you would comment on something you didn't bother to view? It doesn't to me.

Psstt... Marilyn and Lee, why waste your time with Koko?

That's about what I figured, Marilyn. You are cruising around looking for something to get offended about. LOL

Sue, you just did. ("Waste time with Koko") ROFL!

No, k, I was searching for a video about Cheney being hospitalized, yes. I had no idea when I found this one that it would have such rude remarks and I was appalled.

This is true, Marilyn. Hoping and praying for his recovery and his family.

I think it is awful to wish bad things on people no matter what ... Especially just because you dont agree with someones political views.

Amen.

Can they sew his mouth shut while he is in the hospital?
Sorry I don't like the man, and I think he made things worse for Bush his second term.
He holds a grudge and he will take anyone down he can if he goes down!
Mooch

Wonder if there is a website somewhere that has kept track of the amount of GOVERNMENT health care money this country has already INVESTED in Cheney..............anyone THINK he faces ANY caps on whatever he needs to recover?

Howz come no one has brought up Bill Clinton's frequent visits to the C-V ward at New York Presbyterian anywhere on this thread??

Because Bill Clinton doesn't run around preaching against health care reform. Cheney belongs to a party that has the best tax-payer funded health care in American, but at the same time those same tax-payers aren't good enough to have it themselves.

It's the hypocrisy of Dick Cheney BERF that brings out these type of comments.

I only wish Dick Cheney had to buy his health coverage on the open market. Then the old fart might have a little compassion for those lacking his wonderful tax-payer funded health care.

Lloyd, he (Clinton) did run around and sell or give away technology to countries we are not that friendly with, or even on good terms with. Then he tried to sell a military base under the table to China, so I would think his acts of treason should have long ago removed him from any benefits... Opps he is a Democrat, he is allowed to preform acts of treason. Right?

Both Bush and Cheney made a lot of mistakes, but if Obama keeps up, he is going to make both of them look like perfect President and VP.

I wish Cheney the best.

"Because Bill Clinton doesn't run around preaching against health care reform."

So, that makes Slick Willy a saint??

Lloyd, Republicans do not go about preaching against health care reform. Quite the contrary. They do have the best interests of the MAJORITY OF AMERICANS when they speak out against government controlled health care.

They have over 70 health care reform bills that Pelosi and Reid tried to hide and kill.

I believe they were being posted today on their site.

Same here............altho there were PLENTY of other yuk yuk's watching POTUS diflect the POO being flung all day during the proceedings. What was it called again............. "The BLAIR Bitch Project?

It's true, Joyce and APE. Republicans care about everyone today and tomorrow. And thank goodness there is someone smart enough to know that we cannot afford what the Dems propose and that it's unfair to future generations to be so selfish.


Besides, they realize the the MAJORITY of Americans are smart enough to not want the government controlling their health. And the majority are smart enough to not want to reduce health care, increase wait time, increase premiums and increase taxes for the 8 million who truly cannot afford to see a doctor. Those few could be added to an existing program. And the other 22 million need to be taught how to be responsible for themselves and their families.

I wish him well. He wrote a very kind and considerate letter to my son when he turned 12 years old because my son's birthday is on 9/11.

I don't like Dick Cheney. However, I actually like to know nice things done by people that I don't like I don't like. Reminders like yours help us relate to each other on a purely human level. Thanks.

I would never wish death or pain on anyone simply because I don't like them. It's just wrong.

Thanks, J. McDole. And I strongly agree with your last paragraph.

Thanks, J McDole. That is the way we're supposed to be.

I have this numbness (emotionally) when I think of Cheney, although I would not like to see him or anyone else harmed by people who detest them. Wishing someone ill will is just counter productive.

Bravo, RF! I wish him good health so that I can see him tried and executed on the charge of high treason.