Should Rihanna Forgive Chris Brown for Brutal Beating?

Hey Chelsea, you say that Rihanna's cousin should stay out of it and it is not her place to forgive when people like you are doing the same thing. Telling her not to forgive him etc. I think you should take your own damn advice.

As a former victim of domestic abuse -- I would say my opinion on "forgiving an abuser" is valid enough. :)

Thanks for commenting!

Amen Pearl! and Chelsea I am also a victim of domestic abuse. No one is saying she should forget but you need to forgive to move on.

@King Makers -- when people publicly make stupid comments to the media - then yah, it's the public's business. It was made our business when Rihanna's retard cousin brought up a relationship that's been over for years in the tabloids.

"I bet you still can't find a man."


---- @King Makers - --- --

And if I was a gambler, I'd bet you didn't know how to use Google to do even the lightest research of people. :)

my "harsh words" come from documented police reports and online image archives showing the 100% fact that Chris Brown brutally beat Rihanna.

your "harsh words" come from you being a rabid Chris Brown fan who seems to think that it's no big deal that he literally brutalized a woman as if she were a man in a bar brawl. Not to mention you couldn't even take the time to google my name, find my FB or what-have-you (which only takes 2 seconds for even the beginner internet user) To find out just enough about me to try to back up your little fan-boy attack.

:) Fact: Chris Brown beat up Rihanna.
Fanboy drivel: so-in-so can't keep a man that's why she hates woman beaters.


With your logic -- you're basically saying that in order to keep a man, a woman should put up with being beat? I wonder what kind of shining upbringing you had to develop such outlooks on life...

Reality, on the other hand, feels quite nice.

He did not beat her 1st of all. When will ppl mind their own business? This was over a ye ago. If she decidedto forgive him, that's between them! There are women who have been abused much worse& never get this type of attention. So does that mean they are irrelevant because they're not famous? Come on, get real ppl.I'm not saying its right, IT NEVER IS. But there are much bigger issues to write about. How can either of them move on if YOU keep bringing it up? Like you're the one who was disrespected. Leave them alone, let them move on. I like them both as artist. And if Chris Brown wanted to date me today, I'd say yes.I wouldn't judge him because of that but it would always be in the back of my mind...I'm only human. But I'd rather judge him from what knowledge I gain personally. Trust & believe, violence will never be an issue ...and our relationship wouldn't be your business!
-TG

"And if Chris Brown wanted to date me today, I'd say yes."

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LOL. ROFLMFAO! *facepalm*

Lol that's all u got..shut it down love

all i got? Wasn't trying to give you anything. You proved your level of intelligence and you made me laugh. end of discussion ;)

Let's talk about the slum ghetto comment. A bit much?

It's slummy and ghetto to willingly live with men who beat you or to encourage living in a relationship where one is roughed-up and beaten by some guy.

"It's slummy and ghetto to willingly live with men who beat you or to encourage living in a relationship where one is roughed-up and beaten by some guy."

Pretty racist statement, as it implies only black men beat their women~we know full well that isn't the case!

And the wishing abuse on another women.

Hasn't she already forgiven him? She followed him on twitter. Does Rihanna even follow Jay Z?

Chelsea...... Rihanna is NOT one that can be pressured by anyone.....and that includes know-it-all writers. Did you read her words for blogger Sandra Rose (who like you tried to give her Chris Brown advice)? "I would've sworn he beat YOUR a**...just by how upset U are....My bad!!!!" My question is where is your article asking "Should Kim forgive Eminem for brutally beating her for YEARS and then romanticizing it with the "Love the way you lie" video? But, then again, I bet that song is on repeat on your Ipod. Why does Eminem get a pass for beating HIS wife, admitting it and then making a song about it? Until, I read an article from you that puts Em on blast, I cannot take you seriously. What is required behavior for 1 man should be required behavior for ALL men!!!!!

Exactly! And please add Charlie Sheen, Sean Penn and Mel Gibson to the list.

And let the chuuuuuuch say Amen!

P.s. I think Hope Carson and Chelsea Hoffman are the same person. hehe

@sandra -- if those stories were in the news on 9/10/2011 then sure, I'd write about them. But they're not so I'm not. If you want to read old news, read google news archives ;)


PS -- hope is another writer for the media company that owns this site; we can't be the same people.

Rihanna's family members' opinions don't matter since they were not the ones who got their faces broken. When Brown beats them up, they can have an opinion. For now, they should butt out.
As for Brown, he's a menace, a disgrace, and he's no man of any kind. He doesn't deserve to be forgiven. And sooner or later he will brutalize someone else.

Who are you to decide if someone deserves to be forgiven. You wish you had that much authority but newsflash....it belongs to GOD and only him!

Hope -- amen. No matter how much the people commenting in favor obviously support domestic violence -- it's obvious what he did and it's obvious that if Rihanna was interested she'd be all banged up today to show for it. Period.

ps Lisa -- some people don't believe in some fake god ;)

Sometimes I wish that BACA had a BASA group too. Cause you know, if you beat a child here in Texas around BACA you can find yourself at the bottom of a very deep lake.

-Rubs chin.- I think I have just brain stormed something phenomonal!

PS -- King Makers has been reported to Gather for removal of account for making personal attacks on Hope Carson and myself.

Hope, I suggest your report him/it as well. It's obviously some rabid fan with mental problems.

wow!!!

Welll see what happend was..... Chelsea has a very VALID opinion in this and supported her opinion with facts.

Sorry to burst y'alls bubbles but the cousin should stay out of the businees of R and CB. It's words of wisdom to invite people to forgive and forget but if you press the issue then you become one of those window clingons.

Chelsea is a journalist of sorts and it's her 'duty' to write about what she pleases regaurdless of the time line. Just like she could write about the comparrison of Pearl Harbor and 9/11. Those two events are YEARS behind us all but are still talked about amongst persons today.

Chelsea, I agree with you on this 'debate' since that is what it has grown into dispite the stupidity of other partcipants. It's yup to R to forgive and forget, HER choice. Would she be totaly stupid for going back to CB yes she would.

Aint any of you heard of the phrase. 'Once a cheater, always a cheater?' It applies in many diffrent circumstances even in assult and batter in domestic abuse cases.

As for all the other bullhocky going on in this conversation; the lot of you should just feel ashamed of yourselfs cause you have done what majority of idiots do and show your ass on line like it going to boost your ego.

Now with that being said, BACK to the beginning of the conversation.

I don't advise any woman to give in to anyman in a domestic abuse case, no matter who started it first. People say that when a woman hits a man first they are putting themselfs in a mans position... yeah... you got that right but she still has a vagina and you can still be put away for hitting ya lady. If you're star struck and have a subconscious acceptance of someone just because of who they are then shame on you. If CB wasn't a celeb- you would be mad as hell cause he beat his woman.

Thank people. We have to keep our streets as well as our home safe from violence.

Are you kidding me, yes we should keep our streets and homes safe but not by justifying that it is ok for a woman to hit a man just because she has a vagina. Anger is anger and violence is violence regardless of who is doing the hitting. I have a son and if his gf/so tried to beat on him and he retialiated then he is in his rights to do so. NO ONE SHOULD BE HITTING... have you ever heard "if ur bad enough to pass a lick you better be bad enough to take one". Im not star-struck Im just sick of ppl issuing punishment to this young man that has already been punished. He was arrested, admitted to his crime and was punished accordingly...nothing more is required. As someone said above until the same type of harrassment is issued to other celebs who are much older and have done far worse than Chris Brown these articles will be viewed as nothing more than opportunities to hate on Mr. Brown.

@Kendra A -- that is not at all what Lex was saying; and it's obvious that there aren't words small enough to explain points to you in terms for you to understand. It's obvious that Lex nailed it with the whole "starstruck" comment.

"mr. brown" has issues, and he attracts people with issues.. That's why the rabid defense by people whom he doesn't even know exist is so amusing to me right now. lol.

"As someone said above until the same type of harrassment is issued to other celebs who are much older and have done far worse than Chris Brown "

You know, have you ever read Nikki Sixxs Heroin Diaries? Or Motley Crues: The Dirt?

You should they are both wonderful reads but anyways back on what I was about to say. There are things far worse than what CB has done IE. Vince Neil getting into an alcohol induced car accident that resulted in the death of one of his friends. Nothing is worse than the mental torment that he has to live through for the rest of his life in result of that accident. No amount of man made punishment, no mount of jail time. As a being of sin, no one should judge on what people should be punished for because they, themselves have sined. I'm not a bible hugger, might I add but I have strong beliefs that if you can't put up, then shut up.

CB is scolded for his acts from that day, and he will forever be scorned because of; no matter the publicity cause he will ALWAYS have to face the fact mentally... that he layed his hands upon that woman. A woman, he said he loved.

If I can specify tourment; that is tourment in it's most devistating form.

Lex Johnson, you & Chelsea are birds of the same feather, you flock together. => no surprise there at all.

Well it's good to know that your inadiquacys havn't limited you to not being able to tell like minded people apart. I applaud you for distinquishing a black bird from a red bird. Bravo.

I was just super irritated at her audacity for trying to stop Rihanna's Family from speaking their mind on this situation. => she is far gone & needs some serious psychiatric evaluation.

I don't see her actually putting forth an effort in TRYING TO STOP her family. I see an honest opinion and you're daft if you think that someone is so afar gone that they need psychiatric evaluation; have you underwent such processes? Are you a psycharists? If not, polietly, shut up because you are preaching a word in which you're ignorant in, my dear.

Up till now she can't reconstruct the fateful event on the February 2009 yet she ignorantly insist on talking about it. Nothing new in all her report except for the fact that she drenches hers in bias and hate. Its like she is a fat ugly and lonely female looking to blame someone else for her personal failures.

If you know one thing if anything at all, how to be a utter dumb arse. Another set of applause sent your way. Welcome to the country in which you are able to speak about anything you please. If you don't like it, then look the other way. As for her looks, can you honestly tell me that you have seen Miss Chelsea in person? Have you had a meal with her, shook her hand or looked her in the eyes? If not... -Shakes head.- Then you are blind and even more stupid than I first presumed. I can't say 'you can't' cause obviously you can (for some reason someone gave this retard a keyboard and computer) but if you don't know such things then keep your lips shut and your fingers still.

A journalist should be creative & honest especially neural to allow the readers make up their own minds. Not ram her opinions down people's throats constantly for almost 3 years.
Situation has changed, & as a jounalist she has to factor these changes in her reports. But instead chelsea sound like a broken record playing the same song the millionth time.

Lol and youa re any diffrent? Journalist are free to write about what they please just as you are to sit here and complain like some middle school girl experincing her period for the first time. I don't know Chelsea personaly nor will I ever but by god if anyone sounds like a broken recorder it is yourself. Constant 'bish bish bish, whine whine whine. Mope, complain, blabber..... Bish, bish bish, whine whine whine. Mope, complain, blabber..' Need I elaborate more? Pratice what you preach and stop typing.

Lex, what happen has happened, NO ONE CAN CHANGE THAT!

Just like you can't change this woman from harping on something that she feels that she needs to talk about. Sooooooooo silence your stupidity.

Charlie Sheen or Mel Gibson has she written? & those guys did worse that Chris.

Obviously this post isn't about Charlie Sheen or Mel Gibson, how about you go out and find one instead of lingering on someone elses pulse and insulting them due to your possible lack of self esteeme. That, they have psychiatric evaluations for.

No matter what the topic is, but 3 years is too long for any topic except 9/11

Except? If a person is passionate about something, like yourself and your constant bitching and bashing of Chelsea, then they are entitled to continue to drag out the topic. It's called the 'X' button my dear. No one forced you to read something that someone else posted. The fact that you keep posting over and over again, despite your relutancy to shut up, shoes your fortitude to sound like the broken recorder you just preached about. That my dear, the past 3 minuets of my life you disturbed, is 'too long for any topic.' Moving on.

Chelsea, aimed at chris cos she isn't over her ex boyfriend & what a long time to grudge someone else for that.

That is mighty mature of you, throwing up someones real life situations that have nothing to do with the main topic, AKA Chris and Rihanna. You want to point any more fingers little boy?

If we learn to correct and encourage kids that do wrong in the right straight and narrow path, instead of taunting, bullying and destroying them perhaps we'd break the cycle of hate and make the world a better place.

Correct and encourage kids that do wrong in the right straight and narrow path... Wow as if I thought you couldn't be even more hypocritcal.
... instead of taunting, bullying and destroying them... are you not taunting, and destroying someone just because they want to voice their repetitave opinion on a topic? ...
Perhaps we'd break the cycle of hate and make the world a better place... well Fonz, why don't you start us off with your spectacular performance of what to do and not to do. If you want something to change, then it's up to you to start the change.


Now that all that was said.

King Makers, I thank you for responding to my comment because wether I got through that metaphorical thick head of yours, I still get my gather points either way. Though you did make a few good points when you agreed with me and partcipated in a real conversation instead of trolling someone; you're still in the wrong, the wrong that you are blatently trying to shove down Chelseas metaphorical throat. You're probally going to read this and try to debunk everything I said but keep this in mind.... at the back of that tiny sub-conscious you have; your mind is secretly agreeing with me about your little man syndrome and that you should just be quiet now.

Now, I have a phone call to make; if you do respond, I would like a real intense conversation to come back to instead of finger pointing; kay little one?

-Yawns.- Are you done blabbing like a 5 year old? Do you not realize the more you type and press that pretty orange submit button that you sound more and more like an idiot. For one you can't even finish sentences correctly or use punctuation. Keep talking kid, I want my gather points.

It's babbling when someone is making an opposing view but your own opinions you push across as fact...pls try again. As much as you all would like to believe Chris Brown's supporters are not as unintelligent and misguided as you claim. The point is no one is saying we forgot what Chris did or that we support his actions all we are saying is that by Chelsea and clearly you Lex rehashing his faults daily you are helping no one and you certainly aren't hurting Chris Brown you are simply hating. And yes that's the best term to use because this or any of the other articles posted by Chelsea on Chris Brown have nothing postive to convey and are merely sad and frankly a bit obsessive attempts of the writer to discredit someone who has no need of nor wants their approval. Both of you and Hope too need a life, Chris Brown is living his, quite luxuriously I might add, and could give a rats behind what a wannabe journalist and tag-a-long(Lex) think.

go hide in your prayer closet and cry to jebus about it, King Makers. Nobody cares.

lol

it's apparent that King Makers and Kendra S. aren't very educated in the lines of vocabulary..

Might wanna try looking up definitions to words like "journalist" "reporter" "commentator" etc etc.... unless you are meaning to look ignorant.. If that's the case, keep at it; you're making us laugh over here.

That's funny because I was just having a chuckle myself when I saw the other article you posted today on Chris Brown's parking tickets... talk about a major jones for someone. Chelsea you have to go to be the biggest idiot on the planet if you think these hateful rants of nonsense pass for journalism. And feel free to think whatever you want about my education I have nothing to prove but if a real journalist is what you aspire to be you may want to add a bit more class to your approach and lose the self-righteous bitter hag syndrome it limits your audience. just a suggestion though!

mmhmm... I'm sure Chris Brown personally appreciates what you're doing. If you do this enough, maybe he'll notice you..

Dear Diary, today I commented on a gather article about Chris Brown. One of these days he'll notice me....

*yawn*

You look more like the one waiting to be noticed, notice everytime there is a hint of news on Chris Brown you can't wait to post a rant...obsessed much? As long as there are ppl like you breeding hate there will be ppl like me spreading love.
Ok so here's a heads up on your next article since tomorrow the internet will be buzzing with the news of Chris Brown's sold out show in Toronto tonite that kicked off his FAME tour and yes the fans are already raving about it on twitter right now. 15000 in attendance and you think Chris Brown gives a monkeys ball what you think of him? Now that's laughable!!!! Reminds me of the 20,000 that lined the streets of Time Square for two days about a month ago, there really must be something with this Chris Brown character that you can't seem to get enough of...wonder what it could be!

I don't go to McDonalds and tell you how to do *your* job ;)

you think Chris Brown gives a monkeys ball what you think of him?

That's redundant. This article has nothing to do with what Chris Brown thinks of what other people think about him. -Shakes head.- Never ceases to amaze me the ammount of shit that people just throw out there in order to make someone look like the bad person.

I don't go to McDonalds and tell you how to do *your* job ;)

I need to start doing that to people especially if I get to make a complete fool out of myself like the folks who have posted on this conversation. Lol. Maybe then I would understand their pointlessness. Maybe, just maybe but entil then; on to bigger and better things folks.

Oh wait was that suppose to hurt my feeling...laugable again! Chelsea you got nothing and even if my job was at McDonald's my statements would not be any less valid so keep trying. You have no basis whatsoever to post the trash you do other than to promote hate against someone who has never done anything wrong to you personally.
And Lex poor poor Lex sorry my statement went over your head...well here it is so that even you can understand. The inference was that Chelsea thinks her opinions (indicated by all the obsessive articles written to slander or further promote hate towards Mr. Brown) matter to everyone even Chris Brown...sheesh and you people think you are the smart ones!

I've had to have made $50 off your comments alone.

Thanks for reading!

That's about what your questionable writing skills are worth anyway...you're welcome!

aww jealous much? :D you're amusing at best.

Me well there's nothing to be jealous of where you are concerned, but you on the otherhand are not only jealous but you are obsessed, bitter, lonely, have low self-esteem, self loathing, probably fat, unhappy, without God, scared, pitiful, tormented, empty, heartless, unloved, friendless, easily influenced, nothing to live for, without purpose...wheeeeewwwww I know I left some things out but you get the gist.

and yet you've been the one crying about it for days.. hmm...

Might wanna have a shrink look at that. I hear they have a pill for all the flavors of the fruitcake now.

But am I the one obsessed with tearing someone down that doesn't even kno I exist...thought I had it right. And I guess you would know what "pills" are available for all the flavors of the fruitcake.

Let's do a tally:

Articles I've written about Chris Brown (2)

Comments by Kendra A. crying about my articles about Chris Brown (11+)


By sheer numbers, it's obvious who's obsessed.

Thanks for playing :)

And how many comments are from Chelsea on her own article? True signs that you really are an amature. I posted a comment and you replied from there as you can see it is a series of back and forth or was I not suppose to respond sorry didn't see those instructions.

Comments by Kendra A crying about My article : 12

How pressed in Chelsea about Chris Brown? Infinitely

13 crybaby comments by Kendra A (and counting)

2 articles about Chris Brown by me

And Lex poor poor Lex sorry my statement went over your head...

That's funny since I actually read your comment and you have failed to tap into the true understanding of what I posted. Keep talking. :)

1. I don't think I said it was alright for a woman to hit a man so thanks for taking that out of context.

And

2. As I have already stated Chelsea is in a way a journalist and she can write about what she pleases.

If people are going to get their panties up in a bunch because of something someone wrote about then thou shalt not cast the first stone. There are plenty of you that have talked about a long over due subject and here you are blatently casting stones at Chelsea. Yes she has done her own stone casting and I'm not on anyones side when it comes to the immaturity presented in this conversation, but if you don't start no shit, wont be no shit.

Violence should be ended all around but the fact is, it isn't and as I have to re-touch and explain more.... just because a woman hits a man first dosen't mean that gives him the right to beat the hell out of her. It takes the bigger person to end the arguments and the fighting; offer a way to resolve the issue instead of feeding into it. Weather CB hit R first, or vise versa they were both a bit childish in their own way neither should get back into the relationship no matter who wants to condone it, because it's pretty obvious that the two couldn't date 2 years without voilence. Maybe he should get himself a new punching bag. Now.... should Rhianna forgive him, THAT is up to her. Who gives a rats arse what other people think she should do.

Opinions are opinions folks, get your panties out your crack.

Great post, Lex -- glad you take the time to spell it out for them.

( I like poking them with sticks, myself. :D)

No problem hun, no problem. Maybe people will get their heads out of their arse's and lighten up on you. If not, then bring on the trollolololing.

you think this is bad? you should see my twitter lol


well the type who follow chris brown rabidly like this... don't really impress me in lines of mentality and intelligence; so I just kind of think they're amusing. Novelties to pass the time while I work at night.

Lol, to each their own doll. I like to make the trolls look redundant. Haha, glad you get some sort of kick out of this.

only on the weekends -- now it's back to politics & murder stories..


ya know, it is redundant when comments like above "blah blah blah charlie sheen" over and over again - all because CB tweeted that when he did what he did.. and yah.. I don't think I've seen Charlie Sheen beat up a young woman; so I dunno. He's also about as irrelevant as dirt so I'd rather not write about the dildo.

As for Chris Brown -- he'll be irrelevant in a few yrs so gonna write what I can until he fades away like the rest of the canned-music types.

Ehh people just point fingers at other people to take the spotlight off the person in which they are rooting for. That shows the incopetence within todays society.

As for Chris brown.... Well I doubt this incident will fade. He has to face and deal with this for the rest of his life just like other celebs will have to face their fopas. Like Brittney showing her down stairs. Pairs in that sex video with Tommy Lee and god knows whoelse messed up.

Just another blame game, toots but keep on with your writing. ;)

Well crud... not WITH Tommy Lee but like Tommy Lee and Pamela Anderson. Stupid fingers just don't want to work today.

kinda like when a kid says "but mom... so-in-so's kid did this too...." blah

bored.

:)

Precisely. Haters going to hate.

Exactly...Chelsea really is such a hater!

And you're nothing but? Go think on this one Kendra. You have not debunked anything that was previously spoken instead you are... POINTING FINGERS at people who share their views on a particular subject. Please go back to 4th grade and return when you have better comments to post because frankly you are lacking in the realizim department, toots. Reguardless of what Chelsea and I think (I'm not a tag-a-long I might add; refrain from trying to insult someone you don't know shit about) majority of the pubilc is going to 'hate' on Chris Brown, not because of who he is ... deep inside... but the stupid choice me makes. Much like if your mother where to smack the back of your hand for peeing in your pants and sharing it with your aunts and uncles.

Now thanks for the comments cause I still get my gather points making you people look utterly stupid. Plus it also boost my ego neither of you have yet to bring something worth 'talking' about to the table. You know what they say... 'If you can't take the heat, then get out of the kitchen'

Hear! Hear!

chelsea you big ole hater you...how dare you dislike a man who beats women..maybe he is just misunderstood.

What next? Are you going to take after those rapest?

Hater.

Oh, I know, I am so so horrid. And did you know that I am also a racist now? *gasp*

Apparently not liking woman-beating Chris Brown makes you a racist now, even if you're a fan of Rihanna (who is black) a campaign volunteer for President Obama (who is black) and a supporter of Wyclef Jean running for president of Haiti (although I know he is SO not qualified in the slightest)

Guess someone needs to inform whoever's responsible for writing civil rights history and whatnot..

WTF? This from 2011? lmfao

Rihanna has already forgiven Chris Brown. The National Enquirer?! So you only believe the NE when it involves Chris Brown and Rihanna? You're going to run with this story as fact without having actual facts to back it up? Talk about bad journalism. Only tabloid reporters do that. You believe the one about Sandra and Ryan are having a baby too?What about Jen calling Angie at 2 a.m.? The story is is ridiculous because it contradicts all the stuff that has happened since Feb. 2009! Rihanna said she doesn't hate Brown at all, the restringing order was unnecessary, she wishes him the best, she still listens to his music, "they messed up the Grammys," she follows him on twitter and so fourth. When her fans became angry because she did it, she told them to *beep* off. Rihanna has moved on! Brown has moved on. I'm pretty positive you write these articles for fun. You don't a give a damn about DV, Brown or Rihanna. You cannot brutally beat the human body with causing serious damage to the body. Do you have something that proves Rihanna was beaten so bad, she could not walk? She was in critical condition? Last year two girls were beaten with baseball bats by strangers and both of those girls were fighting for their lives. They were brutally beaten. There were so many lies written about this story and people are still running with those lies.

:) thanks for clicking!

I am always amazed when people take a celebrities status as being a celebrity to make them somehow special or above the law or above what society deems as deviant immoral behavior.

Just because someone sings or acts well doesnt mean they are a better person. I love the way Elton John sings but from what I understand IRL he is a pompous azz.

Take Michael Jackson now if you found out your adult male neighbor who was unmarried held sleepovers with kids under the age of 12 and slept in the same bed with them most of us would be on the phone to child protective services in a NY minute but when MJ did it somehow it was OK because he was a great singer and dancer and worth millions.

Get a little perspective here.

I don't understand how the public can treat celebrities worst than their own family members. If your kid received a DUI you would pissed, but there's no way you would hate him or her or ban him or her from the family. You would not talk about it 10 years from now. People lie to keep their blood off death row Why do people treat famous stangers worst than their own damn family members?

Typo fixed: People lie to keep their own blood off death row. Why do people treat famous strangers worst than their own damn family members?

I think you're making nothing but wide-sweeping generalized statements about "people" -- who are these "people" you see protecting their family while hating Chris Brown? I'm not saying these "people" you speak of don't exist -- just acknowledging that I don't know any of these "people."

In other words -- you're using "weasel" language (google it if you don't know what it is) and "weasel" language is a sure-fire marker of someone who is too weak to bring their points to the table; Especially when they have no points.

For the record, I do have some less-than-desirable family members - and you'd probably shake your head at some of the things I've said to them. I don't hang out with lowlife criminals that beat up kids and women and other generally stupid, ghetto and white trash things.

-Chuckles.- Lori, let your man beat you see if you're not 'hurt' from the situation as well as all you other females that keep hating on Chelsea. On top of it, you see if your family don't hate the bastard for MULTIPLE years to follow. -Yawns.- This is as epic as it could get. Keeeeeeep on responding lovin' my gather points.

yea she should forgive him. everybody makes mistakes, an anyway she had to have done something to make him react like tht. like no one jus jumps up out the blue an say's to there selfs (owww imma hit my girl friend today) reall talk an u kno im right

yah, for all we know, she could've shown her own opinion or burned the roast.

What are public schools teaching people these days?